NOT LAUNCHING AT STARTUP !!!

[acuraice]

every few restarts of my imac,espionage 3 is NOT launching at startup,whereas as the older version would always ask for the master password and auto unlock the specified folders every-time i restarted my imac. and yes ,open automatically at login is checked off in the preferences!!! i could force it to launch every-time by adding it to my login items menu in my user accounts preferences in lion,but i never had to do that before and it always worked with the older version. just another bug in the newest version. I wonder if has to do with ispy kext not loading properly at startup??? please look into this. perhaps this will be fixed with the latest update 3.0.1 on the mac app store after it posts within the next few days???

[greg]

acuraice, check to make sure that Espionage 3 is in the Applications folder, and then double-check the preferences to make sure the "At login" checkbox is checked. If it is, try unchecking it and then re-checking it.

[acuraice]

it is in the apps folder! i did the unchecking and rechecking it thing. i will let you know what happens next time i do a restart on my imac. if it doesnt work,i will just manually add espionage to my login items to make sure it gets started as the imac boots up since i noticed that even if start at login is checked off,it doesnt show it in the login items in the user accounts /preferences in lion. could be whats causing the error.

[jacobsm]

The same problem happened with me. I selected the option to open at boot up, and it never did. I also had to manually add it to my login items,

[acuraice]

the option is to open at login is definitely broken. Even when i added it manually to my login items in my system preferences,it's still hit or miss if it launches at startup. Also if it does do it,it sometimes crashes after you put in the correct master password after the first try. the menu item will disappear from the menu until you go into your applications folder and re-open espionage,then re enter your password,then click on the menu item for espionage and re-enter your master password again. very very annoying! i miss the older version of espionage !! worked way better!! this new version is buggy,ugly and totally half-assed,and offers zero benefits over the older version. same 256 encryption,same auto unlock and auto lock features,same launch at startup feature(ha,when it actually does work) why the hell did they do this to us???????

[zsolt]

Hello Acuraice,

So far 3 users reported this problem, two in this forum and one through support ticket.
At the time you start EspionageV3 for the first time, it asks you if you want it to start at login (and says it is recommended), I said "yes" at that time, and had never problems with it.
So it seems that for most of the users it works fine.

I tried now to uncheck it, it did not launch on boot after that. Then I checked it again, and it launched after boot.
So it works consistent for me.
The fact that it is not present in the login items is OK, because there are other ways to start an application at login time, in this case the LaunchAgent is used.

First question:
- did you accepted the default setting at the time of installation i.e. that is launches on startup, or you first said no and then later on tried to enable it?
- second, in case the launch at login is enabled now, can you please start terminal and write the following commands

launchctl
list

(to quit launchctl just write quit and hit enter)

The in the list output you get, search if you can find these entries:
200 - [0x0-0x1b01b].com.taoeffect.Espionage3
- 0 com.taoeffect.Espionage3Helper

Do they appear?

Thanks for your assistance, and sorry that I did not reply till now, I had huge email volume due to new version launch.

Rgds
Zsolt

[acuraice]

no need to attempt your terminal process. i have since fixed this on my own. yes,i did choose "yes" when first asked,and checked the open at login box. but still had issues at startup. i then manually added it to my login items and still it only started 1 out of 4 restarts,and even then after entering the correct master password it would crash and the menu item would appear in the menu then disappear from the menu. I found that by arranging it as dead last in the login items window that t seems to be working correctly now. perhaps one of my other startup items was conflicting with the launch agent at startup?? i know the one app magic window is very processor intensive and usually takes a few seconds to load even with my powerful 3.4 ghz quad core i7 with 16 gigs of ram!! Now everything seems to be working correctly finally. If it starts acting weird again,i will attempt your terminal command. Thank you for all your help.

[zsolt]

OK, as you wish. As said, it should not be required to be in the login items, and it might be that later on you even run into problems with it because it will be attempted to be started twice, once form the LaunchAgents and once from Login Items, but as long as it works fine for you, leave it as it is.

Thanks for replying and enjoy using it.

Rgds
Zsolt

[acuraice]

update: had been working with my method of unchecking and rechecking the open at login preference AND in conjunction with manually adding espionage 3 into my login items in lion's preferences by listing dead last on the list of login items not to conflict is now NOT launching properly 99% of the restarted times and/or launching "2" instances of espionage in the menu bar,when in reality only 1 app itself is installed (ALL older espionage traces completely removed!!) or it launches asks you to enter the master password in the middle of you imacs screen and then proceeds to do nothing,hence the auto-unlock!! you must then re-renter your master password again in the espionage menu item thingy. VERY ANNOYING!! the old version was superior to this in everyway possible!!!! Please read my most recent post about how like myself there are a ton of very unhappy Espionage customers on the mac app store,not even counting the pissed off ones on macupdate.com. Disgusting.

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[zsolt]

Hello Acuraice,

I told you

If you have some time and patience we can try to troubleshoot this if not then we leave it as it is.
We did not have many reports like your, indeed, less then 0.5% of users reported problems when the auto start at login is enabled, what would happen is that the app would start and crash right away. Disabling the auto start and starting it upon logging in by hand would fix the issue. Also, in some cases the the Lion's "reopen the windows from last session" or however it is, created a crash even if the startup was not on. So in some cases it seems that these two options might create some problems.

If you would test for us and send the crash logs then maybe we can figure out where the problem is. However if you decide to do so, please open a support ticket as it will be easier to handle the logs there.

Thanks
Zsolt